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I want to give those a try too before dedicating solely to Zwift on this bike. I ended up sending my Neo Bike back. It worked ok with the same power issues as Ray saw.
However, I have big thighs and I had rubbing problems it two places see photo : 1 The front of the bar that the seat mounts to. Not the sliding part but the fixed part rubs against my upper thighs every pedal stroke.
Using a Specialized Power saddle with equivalent for a standard saddle setback of 6cm. But my thighs are about But if you have large thighs or use a lot of saddle setback you might have a problem.
Something to be aware of and consider. As I am also quite tall cm, 6. Like you can feel teeth on a gear or something like that.
I was also able to get the drive belt to slip and squeal on the pulleys in a couple of low rpm efforts. A guy on TrainerRoad actually broke his belt.
Mine just slipped and made a squealing noise when I stood on the pedals when I was dying and my cadence dropped too low.
Different people might move their legs more inward in which case I could see it being a problem. Keeping the seat level to slightly tilted back keeps my legs straight.
I would try it out and see. It would be interesting to see how wide the center bar is on the wahoo. Looks just as wide.
Hey, i got it from stdistribution. It looks great in person. Easy to put together. I can get the handles on the adjustment bars to line up perfectly straight with the bike.
I find them easy to use. The bike feels solid. I have had no issues with weird smells or grinding sounds as of yet, fingers crossed.
It just worked right out of the box. The cord that dangles down in the front can be pushed back into the frame some which makes it much less unsightly.
The TACX ecosystem seems pretty cool at first glance. I biked around Rome this morning. There are a lot more courses to download and the bike responded to the inclines perfectly.
Not a lot of other users out there though that I noticed. The tablet holder held my The fans I had set to adjust with speed which was nice, but I will probably switch that to heart rate in the future.
I do not have large legs at all — in fact people make fun of my skinny legs at times chicken legs, etc etc. I have rubbing issues.
I have no issue where the frame meets the seat post like Ray had. I have issues with the seat adjustment rail.
My set back is far enough that I rub against the little edge of the framing where they beef up the frame rail about halfway back. I have tried moving the adjustment back and the saddle forward and all other possible setups.
I even swapped out saddles. I found that the saddle with the tallest rails ie the ones that lifted the saddle up from the mount the most actually helped quite a bit.
If I sat on the tallest part of that saddle I would get no rubbing but that is not a suitable riding position. Otherwise, no matter what, I get minor rubbing.
I noticed some small slip when hammering out of the saddle. I only pushed up to around watts. And that will probably settle down over time.
The solution to the rubbing on the seat rail will not be an easy fix. A saddle with significantly taller rails could help those who are rubbing on the seal rail potentially.
Now i have to determine whether I can stomach a constant rub on for the next few years. The bike is perfect for my wife — easy to adjust, a visible screen for metrics, tablet holder, phone holder, two charger ports, etc.
Oh and one more point… the hoods are ridiculously small compared to normal shimano hoods. Smaller hands will be fine, but larger hands may be struggling to find a good grip.
I found the level and buttons to be perfectly fine for me. They worked and the buttons do click slightly, which is nice. And the ability to see your gearing without having zwift or anything is a huge plus.
Some seem to find a sweet spot, others not so much. Just received a Neo 2 smart bike, as soon as I pedal immediatley goes up to extreme high watts cannot figure out what I am doing wrong, any advice would be appreciated as I cannot get anyone from Tacx to respond.
Not easily, from what I can tell without unwrapping the bars. They attach easily enough with four bolts underneath the cover, but the shifters themselves use a different type of attachment to the handlebars they use bolts rather than straps.
So you can easily rotate the handlebars, but not easily attach the shifters to a new handlebar. So moving the hoods is also not easy?!
Unless you move the handlebar? So I took the plunge! I bought the NeoBike. I have just emailed Tacx about the handlebar change.
Hello everybody I tried my new bike today. All in all, very good thing, quiet, supple, and very pleasant to drive. However, I have found that it is far from accurate in ERG mode at low watts.
Mostly around the 40Watt above the desired value. For watts over w it was mostly accurate. Well, i did a workout in trainerroad with erg mode, and in the low watt parts with the target of watts i had approx watts all the time..
I have experienced some minor problems and have been in touch with Tacx support. I never had a problem with my Neo 2 in ERG.
Generally speaking ERG is fine. All my workouts were fine this past week, xcept one that I failed. I have never failed a workout before.
For my opinion there is something wrong on the erg mode in this bike. I seem to have the wattage all over the place and all trainings in erg mode both on zwift and trainerroad.
As well, my pedals develop a cluncking noise after rides, i need to uninstall them and install them again and noise is gone, Then after rides clunk clunk clunk comes back….
I have a feeling that TACX are reading along this thread. Please entlighten us that you are working on this…!
Not exactly the same can be said about NeoBike…. All of them are going to have some teething issues, some…maybe a bit more substantial than others.
Attached another video, i have tried trainer road and zwift in erg mode and in both cases wattage is all over the place!
Regarding the pedal clunking, i will try tomorrow some mounting grease on the threads and on the pods itself. From wahoo… The Kickr bike sold out on pre order for the first units.
At this time they have no updates other than they expect word in December on the next batch. That batch could start going out between January and March, most likely the latter.
If you dont have rubbing issues and dont need the climb feature, the Tacx is a really solid bike. Anyone know what gives? Glad to help.
What Zwift and Rouvy do is probably have a detailed model of terrain, wind resistance, etc. All of them are making it up, and apparently none of them are close to correct for you.
I have a problem with Road Feel. I do get it with my old Tacx Neo 1, not with the Smart Bike. Is there a solution for this problem? I believe the issue here is something on the Zwift side not recognizing the Zwift Bike in certain protocols as a NEO series.
We also encourage you to share your thoughts and vote up support on our Community forums at link to forums. The forums are a great place to get more community support for an idea and attention from the dev team.
You may find many members have the same thoughts and ideas as you! Oh, that sucks. Road Feel was one of the Tacx USPs that worked for me — it may be a bit gimmicky, but it was a bit of fun that broke up a long ride.
Today I was able to recreate the overheating, resistance loss issue with the unit unplugged doing a TACX app heart-rate workout.
Garmin is still taking their sweet time and have not yet offered a replacement. Just need them to make a decision so I can go to the next step and engage with CT if necessary.
A Units that might actually have a legit issue a small number B The software is falsely shutting down the unit, which the next firmware update is set to fix.
The important part was that I was able to recreate it without Zwift, and without it plugged in. At first I thought it was just going to be a Zwift compatibility thing.
Either way I had to finish my episode of Mr. Robot on the couch. I suspect you meant legit hardware issue.
I would say having a brand new product of this price shutting down unexpectedly is still a legit issue, even if they can solve it without paying return freight.
I am more interested to see if it is an early production issue or if the problem is going to scale as more get into the wild. Same problem here.
Not enough space on it. A pity! Maybe they will kick in another couple months of premium for the TACX app, I might be able to download a whole video by then.
The adjustment scale for the horizontal adjustment of the handlebar is missing. They probably skipped printing the scale on the slider in the manufacturing process.
Power control in ERG mode feels and looks pretty rough. Sometimes I am way under and the way above the target output. And resistance drops down a second or so before the end of the interval.
I am not sure why this is happening. Could be power control in ERG mode e. Did anyone experience this as well? During sprints, the handlebar does not feel super sturdy and makes a creaking noise.
I am wondering whether some of you encountered the same problems and know what to do. Tighten those up and it should fix it. Pedaling should be buttery smooth otherwise.
No drop off before end of segment. Yours sounds off. Have you updated firmware? Yes, I saw that the handlebar clamp can be tightened. I will give this a try tonight and see if this fixes things.
The handlebar is the most minor issue though. I am most concerned about ERG-mode and the notchy feeling I sometimes get when pedalling. I feels as if there is either some movement or as if there is no resistance for a split second.
Very weird. About the notchy feeling. My unit is on his way back to Tacx for this reason. They sending a new unit when this arrive.
Ok, thanks for the info! Too bad that this seems to be real concern not something that can be software-fixed.
Did you contact Tacx Support to claim the exchange? I guess the best way to test would be to run the Tacx Utility app, change the Road Feel settings and see if it makes any difference.
FWIW — Tacx support just confirmed to me that the handlebar can be exchanged to a preferred one. I just had the same errror this morning.
Eagerly waiting since i am trying to decide on one of the two… Thanks lots!! A Solved most of them B Or have them solved on other units coming out of the factory C Or have them planned to be solved in upcoming firmware.
With fw 0. Sounds to me that some issues where the same — wattage offset — and has that been fixed for the NeoBike? Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me out.
I really want to get one but space in our apartment is kind of limited. I have some space that is about cm in length behind a door to store the bike when not in use.
Can someone that already has one at home check for me if that is the length when fully extended? Or rather when not extended at all? What is the shortest one could get the bike to?
I was wondering if you or anyone else here ever tried the kettler racer s? They seem to do all the right things real Campa shifters for one.
In other words, the industry standards. Somewhere around here someone either posted or linked to a measurements guide from Tacx.
They will not pair to Zwift or anything alike — only KWT. A shame since their build actually is good. Unfortunately the Kettler website is very sparse on exact technical information.
In their forum you can still read about Zwift hacks. Actually — though some years ago — I wrote with their devs.
I believe they use BT to communicate with PC and this is a closed protocol. Like I mentioned earlier; they may have their own community with a lot of fans.
No one else has videos on the same quality level — period. And with a Tacx you can also ride everything else: Zwift, TrainerRoad what ever….
I got my bike on Friday. So far generally all is good. Anyone else got this problem? The feedback is very subtle at the end of the cassette and less going one way than the other.
Seems just about right to me. Thanks for the response though. Hi, has anyone with this bike been able to compare it to the Atom? Thanks — I guess I was looking for a bit more.
Sounds like a comparo is coming. And then the Tacx is so close in price to the Wahoo, I wonder the same about those. Well, I was loving my Neo bike after two weeks of use until this morning when without warning it started making all manner of creaking and knocking noises from up front.
Still pedaled smoothly and all systems and flywheel resistance fine, but after talking with support, it has to go back in the box for exchange. I have a neo 1 as well as the bike.
Yeah I still have my Direto for now. Kind of amazed that they could have tested these for so long and so many problems are popping up.
Mine was really perfect and then not. Brand new bike. Got it assembled today and first ride. Tacx utility shows a thermal overheating.
Riding about watts during this period on a mostly flat track. Contacted Garmin and they are supposed to contact me to figure this out.
Overall bike looks great, was easy to set up. I didnt find the pedal inserts to be too much of an issue just have to make sure and match them up correctly.
Same here…. Turned the freewheel by hand and guess what: rattle rattle rattle! Imagine the look on my face. I am so dissapointed.
I thought that getting mine a bit later than many others was equal to a lot of fixes made by Tacx. Sadly this was not the case for me. But mann what a rollercoaster ride.
All of a sudden KickrBike just moved a heck of a lot closer. Totally makes sense. I even started doing some workouts after bike commuting home because it was so much more convenient.
I still view this as the cost of being on the bleeding edge and figure there will be some teething pains before it all settles. The quality of the ride will probably keep me on the bike even if it has to go back again I imagine.
Not for a price like this. Just work, like in fit and forget. No fuzz no nothing. Just work perfect everytime! I do believe that Tacx eventually get there.
But only time will tell when that happens. The ride quality is worth it to me. Indeed the ride quality of my 2T is great too. Yes the chain and cassette is there and it makes some noise.
But the ride feel is great — no doubt. That one has a completely new power unit. Just saying…. Smooth as butter, quiet as a whisper and I actually love the fans.
I think this might go away once I put my ISM saddle on the bike from my current saddle and either way, not a game changer.
Also seeing my wattage output higher than programmed in Zwift in ERG mode much more steady at higher wattage but wondering if that is not a combination of me, the trainer, and the program.
I adjusted the tacx power averaging after my last ride to see if this changes anything. Anyway, from my perspective worth the money due to the convenience.
Shout out to Clever Training for being so good at what they do!! Have any UK bikes actually been delivered yet?
I ordered through tredz. I think my bike was one of only seven so they received so I guess all the retailers are getting them in small numbers at a time.
Got mine through Tredz too and have had it for nearly a week. Only one ride so far. Initial worrying rattle more like a high-hat being played went away with half an hour of riding.
So far so good. Tredz buyer too their second pre-order and have had mine a couple of weeks now with km on Zwift. Oh, and like lots of other people everyone?
Has anybody raised the road feel issue with zwift? Ray, is this something you have any gravitas with? All things considered, it feels like most of the problems are teething issues.
In a few months when comparing the tacx with the wahoo bike, I think the Tacx will be the better value proposition with the price difference.
I raised the Zwift issue again with Tacx, who are also raising it with Zwift. As for the shoot-out, next week, likely Tues or Weds.
I got the trainer recommendations guide done last night- so this is next. Is there a setting on the bike or within Zwift to enable the downhill inertia on the bike?
That seems to have made a difference both up and down hills now. They grabbed it back today after some mechanical issues I was having.
Hi, So I have just been told that delivery of my pre-ordered bike is delayed. Reason should be, that they Tacx are suppose to start to install new chip cadence etc in production.
Anybody heard anything similar? This thing is real nightmare and I am now selling my Neo 2 hoping I would finally get the Bike…. I did the same before with Neo to purchase Neo 2 later as workaroud.
Now it seems I will have to buy Neo 2T in the end. These workarounds are becoming more kind of standard now in my wifes eyes — she may start to think that I am using Neo Bike as exuse to justify annual upgrade of smart-trainer ;-.
Allerdings haben wir den Eindruck, dass die Fa. Classen sich versucht aus der Verantwortung zu schleichen.
Haben Sie schon eine Reklamation in die Wege geleitet bzw. Wir haben unseren Boden gerade reklamiert, der Hersteller fordert gerade noch einige Unterlagen von uns.
Mal sehen wo wir die her bekommen. Ich habe mit dem Boden schlechte Erfahrungen gemacht und würde ihn nicht wieder kaufen.
Der Boden ist extrem Kratzempfindlich. Der Boden unterm Esstisch ist wegen den Stühlen total verkratzt und das obwohl wir immer Filzgleiter drunter haben, es reicht wenn sich da ein Sandkorn verirrt und schon sieht man deutliche Kratzer.
Die kleinen Matchbox Autos von meinem Sohn haben auch so 10 Krater entstehen lassen. Dieses verhältnismässig teure Produkt verhält sich wie in den vielen Kommentaren vorher beschrieben.
Es hebt sich, man läuft darüber und die Dielen senken und heben sich. Ein mangelhaftes Produkt! Hat jemand Erfahrungen wie die Fa.
Classen auf Regressforderungen reagiert? Hat jemand aktuelle Erfahrungswerte mit dem neuen innovativen Designboden von Neo by Classen bei der Verlegung und im Gebrauch in der Küche?
Vom Fragesteller als hilfreich ausgezeichnet. Hallo strixe, ich habe mich im Mai diesen Jahres auch für den "tollen" Designbelag entschieden und bin leider böse enttäuscht worden.
ABER: 1. Wir mussten die Wohnung auf unsere Kosten in Eugenarbeit räumen. Es wird alles gemacht! Es werden auch nach Bedarf die Abschluss- und Übergangs-Profile ausgetauscht.
Ich rede hier aus Erfahrung, da ich diesen Austausch für den Herrsteller durchführe. Bisher alles Super! Ich bin alles in allem sehr zufrieden!
Hallo Carooo96, ich habe an anderer Stelle gelesen, dass der Neo 2. Wie sind denn deine Erfahrungen hier? Welches Dekor hast du gewählt?
Hallo, wie ist deine Erfahrung denn inzwischen mit dem Boden? Ist er wirklich so kratzempfindlich? Lässt er sich noch ordentlich wischen oder wird es schlimmer?
Hoffentlich hebt er sich nicht auch wieder ab! Bisher zeigte er keine Ausdehnung. Mit dem Wischsauger lässt er sich sehr gut putzen. Mit der Hand nach herkömmlicher Weise ist es sehr anstrengend.
Auf jeden Fall ist er kratzempfindlich! Ursula 8. Wollten ihn eigentlich in der Küche verlegen mit passendem Unterboden. Natascha Unser Neolay sieht genauso aus wie auf eurem Foto vom neuen Boden uff.
Nun meine Frage: Habt ihr zusätzlich noch eine Dampfsperre darunter verlegt? LG Natascha Die Dampfsperre ist trotzdem Pflicht!
So sagte man uns. Wir haben auch massive Probleme mit dem Boden. Habe beim Händler reklamiert, könntet Ihr mir mal eine kurze Info geben wie die Kulanzabwicklung bei euch gelaufen ist.
Musstet Ihr einen RA einschalten? Danke vorab für eure Hilfe! Wir waren uns noch am selben Abend "handeleinig" und mussten allerdings die Freigabe der Firmenleitung abwarten.
Die kam drei Tage später. Es ging alles Problemlos und ohne RA. Die Firma war sehr kulant. Ich wollte mir eine eigene Meinung zum Boden machen obwohl ich deinen Blog gelesen habe.
Habt ihr was zum reparieren der Kratzer gefunden? Der Neo 2. Lg Heiko Wir haben mit unserem Boden das gleiche ProblemCenter of bottom bracket Oktopus Schnabel these bikes is just below 12 inches off the ground. In a funny twist of things, the blue box actually held up shipments for everyone. I use my Quarq for data on the Edge, but I have several times riden with Tacx as power source did this to compare wattage difference. Can you clarify the four updates? Passwort vergessen? To be honest the wattbike seems more convenient since it has tri handlebar T Online Spiele Kostenlos Spielen the package already… Thank you very much for your effort you put in Bleigießen Wie Geht Das reviews. Using a Specialized Power saddle with equivalent for a standard saddle setback of 6cm. Set up was super easy. Reach for the shifting buttons is just that- a reach 3. You might try tilting your seat back a bit. As I am also quite tall cm, 6.